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		<title>By: Peter Kirschner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Kirschner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 10:36:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott, I totally agree upon your remarks. There is a wonderful presentation from Erich Gamma describing some of the key area&#039;s which made Eclipse successful and prosperous during the past (beside the technical things). http://jaoo.dk/london-2008/file?path=/qcon-london-2008/slides/ErichGamma_qcon2008.pdf

But nowadays Eclipse is much more than a village. We are a melting pot of different interests. This implies that freeloaders and other suspects joined us. So we loose the accountability, transparency, and much of the fun:-( IMHO Eclipse is going commercial, which means that people are more interesting in earning money than sharing knowledge or coding sophisticated features.

&quot;Divide and conquer&quot; is well know pattern in software architecture and also in civilizations. I suggest that every project inside Eclipse needs a champion (not only a project lead) sticking to all of the upper mentioned principles and being responsible for transparency about his project and the community. Therefore it would be necessary to find &quot;political correct&quot; ways for blaming freeloaders or pseudo-contributors as well as reward excellent citizens.

Every huge organization I know is facing this challenge of having a defined level of principles and ethics and being able to judge those people not sticking to them. So Eclipse reached this points also and needs a way to deal with it.

So I&#039;m tensed, what the future brings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott, I totally agree upon your remarks. There is a wonderful presentation from Erich Gamma describing some of the key area&#8217;s which made Eclipse successful and prosperous during the past (beside the technical things). <a href="http://jaoo.dk/london-2008/file?path=/qcon-london-2008/slides/ErichGamma_qcon2008.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://jaoo.dk/london-2008/file?path=/qcon-london-2008/slides/ErichGamma_qcon2008.pdf</a></p>
<p>But nowadays Eclipse is much more than a village. We are a melting pot of different interests. This implies that freeloaders and other suspects joined us. So we loose the accountability, transparency, and much of the fun:-( IMHO Eclipse is going commercial, which means that people are more interesting in earning money than sharing knowledge or coding sophisticated features.</p>
<p>&#8220;Divide and conquer&#8221; is well know pattern in software architecture and also in civilizations. I suggest that every project inside Eclipse needs a champion (not only a project lead) sticking to all of the upper mentioned principles and being responsible for transparency about his project and the community. Therefore it would be necessary to find &#8220;political correct&#8221; ways for blaming freeloaders or pseudo-contributors as well as reward excellent citizens.</p>
<p>Every huge organization I know is facing this challenge of having a defined level of principles and ethics and being able to judge those people not sticking to them. So Eclipse reached this points also and needs a way to deal with it.</p>
<p>So I&#8217;m tensed, what the future brings.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Milinkovich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Milinkovich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 02:46:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott, Thanks for that...I am adding this to my reading list for sure!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott, Thanks for that&#8230;I am adding this to my reading list for sure!</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Scharf</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Scharf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Apr 2009 00:51:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scott,

I think eclipse clearly became a large enough group to loose its ability for all members to act in the common interest.

The wikipedia article you point to is interesting, it also points to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_rider_problem and indirectly to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_commons, which somehow supports what I was trying to say in my blog post..

I think there is great value in social science research. And it can help to understand and hopefully solve the problems of the eclipse community.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott,</p>
<p>I think eclipse clearly became a large enough group to loose its ability for all members to act in the common interest.</p>
<p>The wikipedia article you point to is interesting, it also points to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_rider_problem" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_rider_problem</a> and indirectly to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_commons" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_commons</a>, which somehow supports what I was trying to say in my blog post..</p>
<p>I think there is great value in social science research. And it can help to understand and hopefully solve the problems of the eclipse community.</p>
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